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jeudi 28 août 2014
English version of my interview with Peter Daltrey from 2010
1/ We find in your songs a certain innocence with childhood nostalgia. " The Sky Children " is still one of the most charming song of English rock and while listening to this song, we think about adolescent dreams ... So here we are, what were your secrets to make such beautiful songs?
**The band were on holiday together in summer 1964. We were staying at Swanage, a traditional seaside holiday town in Dorset on the south coast of England. Just outside the town was a small Victorian castle perched high on a rocky bluff over-looking the sea. Late one morning we decided to walk up to the castle. It was a fine summer`s day with an almost clear blue sky, with just a few light clouds high above, moving slowly in a light breeze. We searched around the castle for awhile -- and then found a steep path leading down to the sea. We decided to climb down. At the bottom we found ourselves on a rocky shore, huge boulders having tumbled down from the cliffs probably hundreds of years ago. The sea was crashing on the shore, the waves breaking against the rocks, the spray rising, causing rainbows to form in the sunlight. The noise was deafening, but wonderful. Nature in the raw. Looking ahead we could see Swanage in the distance, two or three miles away, shimmering in the heat haze. We decided to return to the town along the beach. It wasn`t easy as some of the boulders were as big as cars. But we carefully picked our way over them and through them. Gradually it became easier to walk as the boulders gave way to smaller rocks. It was now midday and the sun was burning down. To our right the ocean roared on.
The four of us became separated and I found myself at the back of the group. For some unknown reason a line came to me: A million white flowers in a field in the sky... Ed and I always wrote using the same formula. I wrote the words, he wrote the music. Writing a song is often no more than simply grabbing inspiration out of the air and turning it into a lyric. And inspiration, by definition, can`t be produced on demand. That ain`t how it works. Inspiration`s favourite trick is to insinuate itself into your thoughts just as you are about to fall asleep in bed. A word or a line or two will form in your mind, drifting in and out of your consciousness as you are about to take that wonderful step into sleep. But, aware of these lines, you know that if ignored they will simply disappear; in the morning they will be gone. So you struggle back from Nodland, scrabble around for a pen and paper, scratch the words out -- and crash back to bed. Sun up, bleary eyes, full bladder, sandpaper mouth, roaring tinnitus, you squint at the words; usually crap, sometimes inspired. In this case I was walking along a beach without pen and paper. Another line came to me -- and another. Now I was in real trouble! I had two options: refuse to allow my mind to conjure up new lines, knowing how difficult it would be to remember them -- or grab the horn by the bull and accept the lines as they emerged from my spongy grey matter and attempt to remember them. After all, most songs comprise of only a verse or three and a chorus. How difficult would that be, for goodness sake? Little did I know at that point that I was in the process of writing one of the longest songs we would ever record.
I stumbled on over the rocks, glancing to my right at the shifting watery rainbows as they hung in the shimmering phosphorous spray of the crashing waves. There were beautiful shells on the beach and dark slippery seaweed, glinting in the sun. More lines. I strung them together. Rhymes formed. A story began to emerge. More damn lines. I had to keep going back to the start -- assembling the verse in my head, trying desperately to remember the lines in the correct order each time. Dan was just ahead of me. He stopped and called back, "You OK, Pete...?" I told him I was writing a song. He nodded, wisely deciding to leave me to it. Now so many lines and I was losing the battle, the verses melting into each-other, the lines changing each time I put them together in my head. Damn. It was hot. I was sweating. I shook my head, trying to jumble the lines back into some cohesive order.
When we eventually arrived back in the town I raced ahead to the campsite, grabbed a pen and began frantically scribbling down what I could recall of the lines. Once back home in London the lyric was polished and honed into its final draft. Ed came up with a simple repetitive melody that perfectly captured the mood of the song: the fairytale story of a group of children on a magical quest.
It is easy for today`s listeners to scoff at such lyrics. Yes, with our modern, sophisticated -- some would say jaded -- ears it all sounds, well, rather silly. But they are listening out of context. Take yourself back to 1967. I was influenced by Donovan on songs such as this. His beautiful album, `Fairytale` was high on my list of favourites with its stories and tales that would not have looked out of place in a child`s book. People say I was heavily influenced by Tolkien. In fact, in my literary ignorance, I had never heard of Tolkien. But I absorbed everything I heard around me, the clothes we wore, the mood of gentleness that permeated our lives back then -- so long ago. I don`t recall the recording session for `The Sky Children.` But I suspect it was recorded late at night in Philips` Marble Arch studio, probably with the lights out, just a candle or two burning on a speaker case. Truly magical times.
2/ " Faintly Blowing " seemed to be more diversified, putting some folk rock touches here and there but also plunged us into violent themes and ... calm ones. What have been your approach during the production of this gem of acid rock?
**Ed and I never stopped writing songs. We always had more songs available than we could record. Some bands are contracted to make an album and they go in to the studio and start writing there. We always had a stock of songs ready before we ever went into the studio. We knew exactly which songs we would record, having already played them to our producer, Dick Leahy, and received his enthusiastic approval.
The songs that appeared on `Tangerine Dream` were mostly written in '65 and `66. Although we had, at that time, already been writing for two or three years, we were still novices. We were learning our craft. By '67 and '68 we were more confident as writers and knew that we had an outlet for our work as we had a recording contract and a record company that were convinced we were the next Beatles. (This is not an exaggeration; we were told this by Philips executives.)
The psychedelic period was very short-lived: a multi-coloured rocket that shot into the sky in '66 dazzling us all with its brilliance, slowly falling to earth in `68, its dying embers glowing only until the end of that year. We were swept along in its starry wake. For the type of music that we were writing and recording we were certainly in the right place at the right time. London was vibrating with possibilities. We were young, naively confident of our own abilities, unstoppable. As we entered 1968 Ed and I were writing in a more mature way, hence songs such as `Black Fjord`, `(Love Song)For Annie` and `If you so wish`. But we still adopted a psychedelic stance -- true to our roots -- on songs such as `Faintly Blowing` and `The Feathered Tiger`. (We attempted to record `I remember Sunny-Side Circus` at this time, but were unhappy with the results; and the song wouldn`t appear until `From Home to Home` -- slightly out of place on that later album.) With a healthy budget our sound was augmented by a full orchestra which certainly enhances the more mature approach employed in the sessions. I no longer listen to our records -- indeed, I listen to very little music as my legacy from the band is deafness and tinnitus -- but of our two early albums, it is `Faintly Blowing` that appears to wear the musical crown.
A brief mention of the session in which we recorded `Music`. My memory is shot full of holes so very little in the way of detail remains. But I do recall that we all made a concerted effort to make the track as way-out as possible. We were urged on by our producer who was keen to establish a name for himself. Once the basic backing track was recorded we added a lead vocal. We then set about embellishing the ending with various `found` sounds, such as coins spinning on top of speaker cabinets, radio broadcasts and doors slamming. The following week we were called into the studio to hear a first mix of the album. We were slightly alarmed to find that Dick Leahy had smothered `Music` in phasing rather than keeping the effect just for the ending. But we were persuaded that it was the correct mix for the track and, still young and over-awed by the attentions of our multi-national record company, decided to zip up our objections. Today I get regular e-mails from fans, young and old, singing the praises of `Music`. I guess it is a matter of taste.
3/ Kaleidoscope made a single entitled " Isle of Wight Festival Theme " in 1970, under the name of I Luv Wight, you played live in Friday, august 28th, under Fairfield Parlour and it seemed that you have been informed of an anonymous letter which said that the first band who played will be shot. Do you remember some details about this?
**In May and June of 1970 our manager had extensive talks with the Foulk brothers, the festival organisers. He pulled off an amazing coup. Not only did he secure the band a place on the bill at the upcoming Isle of Wight Festival on the Friday, but talked the two wily brothers into agreeing that we should write and record a song that would be released as a single under the banner: The Official Isle of Wight Festival Song 1970. They further agreed that the song would be played between every act. This massive publicity during the weekend festival, together with the expected heavy radio airplay, would at last secure the band its long overdue first hit. Legal representatives drew up a contract which was duly signed by both parties.
In June Ed and I wrote the song: `Let the world wash in.`
On the Thursday we were all sat in the salubrious TV lounge at the Shanklin Clarendon Hotel: a side room with over-stuffed sofas that had been fashionable between the wars, a shredded bile-green carpet and a black and white television balanced on a stylish Fablon-coated table. We were on the hard stuff: big chipped mugs of creosote-coloured tea. Dave suggested we watch the news to see if the festival got a mention. Second item: "The IRA announced today that in protest at the continued presence of British troops in Belfast they will shoot the first group to appear at the Isle of Wight Festival tomorrow."
"Who is the first group on stage tomorrow, Dave?"
"You are."
On the Friday we hung around waiting to go on. All nervous. This was a major gig for us. Eventually we found ourselves on stage in front of a quarter million people. Dan thumped a drum. Steve pumped a bass string tentatively. Ed retuned. I approached the microphone, my heart pounding. The familiar opening chords of `Eyewitness` -- I opened my bone dry mouth:"We know you have seen a lot of things..." Appropriate. The sound is surprisingly quiet. We had expected to be deafened by the walls of speakers. They`ve only turned the volume knob to 5. Bastards. And now `Aries` that nostalgic hymn of youth -- but the sound is evaporating in the open air, swept away gently on a balmy breeze. The sound is going to the hill! You can almost see it misting into the green-blue distance. And now an audible wave: applause. Warm, welcoming applause and encouraging calls. But wait... The IRA. If they shoot anyone it`s going to be the singer, center-stage, arms outstretched in his white Jesus-suit. A perfect target. For a frozen moment I thought about looking for the rifle, but brought myself back to the now instantly. Now was not the time to think about my death; I could do that at leisure later in a pool of blood behind the stage, my life melting into the trampled grass like crimson snow, my breath forming a last word, "Bastards..."
After an all-too-brief set we left the stage, relieved to still be alive. It had turned out to be an empty threat, made simply to garner publicity for their blinkered cause.
4/ So you still play music nowadays and you made a lot of albums, do you have some new musical influences? Do you have a nostalgic feeling while thinking about the 60's / 70's era? And more precisely about the Kaleidoscope/Fairfield Parlour years?
**When the band broke up I moved away from London, escaping to the green hills of Wiltshire. After a hiatus of a couple of decades I found the old creative urges re-emerging, a need to write. I set out to write and record my own songs -- and to date have released fourteen solo albums and a DVD. I sell my albums through my websites: www.chelsearecords.co.uk and www.myspace.com/peterdaltrey
I have had good feedback from fans regarding my solo work. They tell me my voice has not changed and they like what I`m doing as it bears the traces of Kaleidoscope and Fairfield Parlour. This is inevitable. I can`t -- and would not want to -- escape my roots. Nostalgia gives one a nice warm melancholy feeling -- but it is essentially self-indulgent and vacuous. I prefer to live in the Now. I am more concerned with the next song I am going to write than songs I wrote over forty years ago. Which is not to denigrate in any way our back catalogue. I am proud of our work -- and deeply moved that younger generations are discovering our records and enjoying them. That makes me feel immortal. Something to which every creative person aspires.
My years in the band were framed in frustration. Frustration that what should have been success eluded us, through no fault of ours. Our record company were useless, unable to get the records into the shops when our fans wanted to buy them. And our lack of a manager when we were Kaleidoscope seriously handicapped us in our direct dealings with the record company. We made three hit records: `Jenny Artichoke`, `Bordeaux Rose` and `Let the world wash in`. But none achieved success; the first two -- huge turntable hits -- failed to chart because of record company ineptness; the third because the Foulks brothers reneged on our contract to promote the single at the festival.
So I have fond memories of those years in the band, but I don`t look back. There lies madness.
5/ Do you have some stories about Kaleidoscope gigs? Some facts that you remember well?!
**We did so many gigs that my recollections of individual appearances in pubs and clubs have all dissipated. Merged into one almost. See the next question for a few rusty details hewn from the mine of my flawed memory.
6/ What a spectator would have expected while going to a Kaleidoscope gig?
**We had several personas. If you had come to our first gigs you would probably find yourself in a smelly youth club or a dusty church hall. A few slightly embarrassed teenagers, allowed out by their over-bearing parents to their first `dance`, would be milling about, over-excited, nervously clutching glasses of lemonade. You would see a group of four equally awkward teenagers on stage: The Sidekicks. We would be playing early Stones and Beatles covers and blusey stuff by Mose Allison and Muddy Waters. The sound wouldn`t be very good because we only had a few cheap amps and speakers. The singer would be rooted to the spot, gripping the microphone stand, desperately trying to remember the words. After about an hour the band would run out of songs and would have to start repeating material you`d already heard. But not many in the `crowd` would notice as they would be more interested in the pubescent attraction game.
If you had come to see The Key, you would be in the dark back room of a pub -- the band set up on the floor in the corner -- or at a college. If it was the pub you would be surrounded by rockers, greasy guys more interested in finding a target for their angry fists than watching the band. There would be an over-whelming stench of beer and sweat and an air of anticipation -- not for the band, but for the bloody punch-up. If you were at the college gig you would be in a larger hall and the band would be on a proper stage. The crowd would be youthful, intense, clutching pints of cider and ale. There would be actual spotlights on the stage, perhaps some coloured lights flashing off and on. The band would still be playing easy-peasy blues stuff, but now they would have incorporated some self-penned songs. They would be wearing frilly shirts and Anello & Davide Beatle boots. A girl in a mini-skirt would be sitting on stage. In-between songs she would read a line or two of poetry. At the climax of the final song of the set -- a frantic long-forgotten live masterpiece called `Face` -- the singer would collapse on stage with blood pouring from his mouth. The rest of the band would finish the song and then carry the singer off stage. If you were at the Brunel University where this happened you would then see the crowd going wild and the gig organisers chasing us out of the building for upsetting public decency. They didn`t seem to appreciate our rather over-blown stage-craft and the blood capsules we`d bought from the local joke shop on the way to the gig.
At a Kaleidoscope gig you would be at a university or a club and you would be in the company of some colourfully-dressed folk. The band themselves would be nicely kitted out in all the latest gear. Their sound equipment would be of better quality and they would be loud. They would be playing all their own material now, with stand-out performances of `Dive into Yesterday` - `Snapdragon` - `(Love Song)For Annie` - `Music` etc. This last number would now be their finale: a raucous cacophony of sound that would usually have the audience calling for more. No blood this time, but real sweat.
A Fairfield Parlour gig would definitely be in a university -- and now the crowd would be more soberly dressed, in dark colours, floppy hats. The whole evening would have a more mature feel with the band featuring a greater proportion of acoustic numbers. Steve would play the flute on `Eyewitness.` I would play my clavichord on `Soldier of the flesh.`
Or you might catch one of our shows at Mothers club in Birmingham, situated above Burtons the tailors. The place would be heaving. We played there several times and always got a warm welcome. It was here that Dan suffered his massive medical trauma when he trapped a nerve in his spinal column after one particularly energetic performance. We thought he was dying there in front of our eyes. He spent weeks in hospital, survived, rejoined us on stage eventually, a real trooper -- but still bears the scars of that night.
7/ Contrary to the USA, English psychedelia seemed to face difficulties to established in the musical environment. What are for you, the main differences between the two countries?
**There are real differences between US and UK psychedelia. The US version was very heavily influenced by the burgeoning drug scene, particularly from San Francisco. The music, whilst retaining the essential elements -- the jangly guitars, the studied weirdness, the incomprehensible lyrics -- was generally heavier.
The UK version had a lighter more sensitive touch -- and some would say more intelligible lyrics. Our influences were fairy tales and the gentler side of life, which probably stretched way back to our childhoods. Drugs featured -- although not in our case -- but were referenced with a subtler touch. I prefer the UK version of the genre -- I guess I would say that. Psychedelia was very short-lived: a musical phenomenon that created its own time, part of a brief era that blossomed for no apparent reason, seeming to offer a colourful gentle signpost to the future, but in the end consumed itself in excess and died -- giving way to so-called progressive music. We moved with it and shrugged off our coat of many colours to become Fairfield Parlour.
8/ What do you think of downloading? " Tangerine Dream " has been reissued many times, did someone ask you to participate to these reissues? Did you have royalties?
**A very sore point. As four naive young men we were -- like so many before us, including the Beatles -- easily manipulated by a multi national record company. I doubt that we even read the contract that we signed. I am still bitter that Dick Leahy, our producer, did not advise us to get ourselves a manager. He would then have represented us and negotiated with the record company. A tough manager would have insisted on a better royalty rate, better distribution and promotion, better all-round support. As it was, we were walked over by a totally incompetent record company whose executives were still living with one foot in the Fifties; they knew nothing about psychedelia, their distribution department was seriously negligent -- and they had bigger fish to fry in the shape of Dave Dee Dozy Beaky Mick and Tich.
Although our Fairfield Parlour manager had his faults, he did at least secure us a much better deal with the record company`s new label, Vertigo, by negotiating a tape-lease contract: we went away and recorded the material and then leased it to Vertigo for five years. After this period all rights reverted to the band. We now enjoy a healthy income by leasing our Fairfield Parlour recordings -- and `White-Faced Lady` -- for reissuing by labels all around the world.
So -- to answer part of your question -- yes, we do get royalties from sales of Kaleidoscope records, but they add up to pocket money because of the criminally low royalty rate that still pertains forty-two years after signing the contract. Am I bitter? You bet.
I`m answering your three-part question backwards. Sorry. I worked with Universal on the compilation, `Dive into Yesterday.` But they even cut corners there. The booklet was supposed to be full colour which they changed at the last minute to monochrome on the inside pages to save a few pence. Pathetic company.
Downloading...? Don`t like it. We get paid tiny fractions of a penny for each download. Unless you are having hundreds of thousands of people downloading your stuff you`ll never make any money that way. I still prefer to sell my CDs from my websites. Fans know that if they choose to buy a CD from Chelsea Records the profit will go straight back into making more music -- not into the clammy claws of some tone-deaf record company executive or shareholder.
9/ What do you think of nowadays bands? Do you have some favourite ones?
**I don`t listen to music. I can`t afford to damage my hearing any more than it has already been damaged. Guys-in-bands reading this: Hey, protect yer ears. Wear musician`s ear-protection and save your hearing. Or you`ll end up like me. My most-used word in the English language is, "pardon...?"
10 / Have you already been mistaken for Roger Daltrey?
**Lots of people call me Roger by mistake. Funny story: My parents booked a restaurant. They had a nice meal. The waiter asked them if the restaurant staff could meet them. They thought this extremely odd, but agreed. Out came the waiters and the kitchen staff and stood around gawping at my puzzled folks. Then the chef asked if Roger might be paying their restaurant a visit. The penny dropped. But my parents didn`t let on. I think they were hoping for a free meal. Ha, ha!
lundi 11 août 2014
Interview with Marcus McDonald from the legendary Psych/Space Rock album "From The House Of Trax"
Louis Hauguel: Thank you for accepting this interview, it's a great pleasure to have you here for Fuzzine! So to start, could you tell us about your musical journey, when did you start playing music?
Marcus McDonald: Let me start by saying I am very flattered to do this interview and thank you for your interest in my path on this old rock.
My parents gave me a set of drums when I was 13 and that lasted about 2 weeks and they took them away from me… I guess it was pretty annoying to listen to a kid banging on them all day and not really having a clue as to how to really play them. They had given a guitar to my older sister who never played it and it just sat in the closet so she gave it to me. So by that time I was around 14 and started playing music well I guess it was music but mostly I just banged around on it until it sounded good to me. I carried it around with me nearly everywhere I went.
2/ We will talk about "From The House of Trax" of course but before, could you tell us a bit more about your influences?
The first cover tune I learned to play was Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven; you know a little Led for the head. Second tune I learned was Deep Purple’s Smoke on the Water; after that I just started making my own music. That way nobody knew if I was doing it wrong. To answer your question better I must say that my influences were varied from bands like The Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Rolling Stones and a host of others.
3/ "From the House of Trax" is a very unique record with lot of psychedelic effects and sounds like nothing else. How went the recording process of that album, what motivated you in exploring such atmospheres back in 1978?
I met Jim Fergusson who owned and operated The House of Trax Studio and when he heard me play he offered to record my music for free so I could not pass that up. It turned out that he was and is a Masterful Genius when it comes to audio engineering and my music would have never turned out like it is without him.
4/ Did you expect after all those years that your album would turn into a psych masterpiece highly sought after by collectors?
Funny thing about that… Jim Fergusson said that my music was 10 years ahead of its time and may take a while to catch on and sure enough I could not sell copies for place mats and some of my friends used them for Frisbee's just to see how far they could toss them. Almost ten years to the day a guy in New York called me up and said he found one in a used bookstore for 2 dollars and loved it and asked if I had any for sale. Well yes I said I have a few but actually I had a lot but anyway he offered me 300 dollars each for 10 of them and I was astounded and said sure I will sell them to you. The man drove from New York to New Albany Indiana and met with me and paid me 3000 dollars for 10 records. I have seen this sell for as much as $1.200 at an auction in Germany and I have sold some to places all over the world from California to Japan and many countries in between Like Greece, England, France, Germany, Australia and many others. The short answer to this question as to did I see this coming? No I did not but am very pleased that people from around the world still likes it.
5/ What are your thoughts on the music industry of nowadays?
Well to each his own I say… There is no music anymore that moves me like it did in the 70s and I guess that era has passed sad to say but thanks to the modern technology we are able to preserve that music to enjoy and reminisce with today. I am a bit surprised with country music today it seems it is not country at all anymore it is all starting to sound like rock music and I must say I like the change.
6/ Do you have any interests in the occult, unknown secrets and mysteries in this world?
The world is full of secrets and mysteries that level the playing field of life and death and the reins of power and control are often being slacked and taught. But I will not be divulging any antithoughtical information today. Don’t bother looking up antithoughtical because I just made that up.
7/ Do you have any plans concerning some new releases in the spirit of "From the House of Trax" ?
Yes I do and I have a few new pieces of music nobody has heard yet and working on a few more.
8/ Would you consider touring and playing "From the House of Trax" in its entirety along with other compositions?
I would absolutely love to do that if it came to pass as a possibility.
9/ I read that you were also releasing a movie, could you tell us more about that other project, how things are going?
Ah yes my new movie… Chain of Events {The Movie} Well it is not at all what you would probably expect from me but I made it to get my foot in the door. It’s a Romantic Comedy that took me 2 years to make and it is finished. I just submitted it to the Sundance Film Festival and hope something good comes from that. It was a lot of fun and I had the privilege to work with some very talented actors. Now that being said if we make any real money from this or not my next project will be the complete opposite of a romantic comedy and should be inspiring and downright frightening. I got to give a fair shake to the other side.
10/ I always submit that question, which is the desert island one haha... Tell me about one album, one book, one movie you would take there with you ?
Pink Floyd; Dark Side of the Moon, My next Movie and The Bible.
11/ Would you like to share anything else with us, thoughts, whatever coming to your mind right now...?
I was kind of wondering why French Fries and French Toast have nothing to do with France and if we want peace in the middle east and the rest of the world why don’t we just have a one world order and have the whole world take a vote for just one good king.
Thanks for letting me voice my thoughts and memories into your world, Marcus
Louis Hauguel for Fuzzine (2014)
mercredi 18 juin 2014
Interview with Elin Larsson (Singer of heavy psych/blues band Blues Pills)
Louis Hauguel : So very typical question to start: How Blues Pills was created? Was it difficult to gather everyone?
Elin Larsson: Blues Pills formed a while after I became friends with Zach and Cory back in early 2011. Me and Zach were sending songs we had been writing separately over the internet to each other, and the second time I flew to America we started collaborating and writing together. In the beginning we were only 3 (Me, Zach and Cory). We didn’t take it too seriously, more chilling at the farm outside of Ames, Iowa. Just writing music, jamming, having fun. not knowing what would ever happen for us, we where all kind of lost but just enjoying life for what it is, day dreaming. Our first ever demos of Blues Pills were only the three of us playing. Cory and Zach splitting the guitar parts and then Zach on bass and Cory on the drums and me (Elin) singing. Eventually really quickly offers and shows were coming in, and we got signed by crusher records of Sweden. We got really blown away by this and I remember that day, you see I never would have thought stuff like that would happen.
We got a tour offered in Spain and Portugal, but we were only 3 people at that time. Zach and Cory remembered they met and saw this french kid ( Dorian ) play guitar incredibly. They met him during a tour with their old band. We got in contact with Dorian, at that time he was only 16 years old. We asked if he wanted to play with us on our first tour and also record some solos on our EP that would be released. He said yes. After this tour in Spain, and after playing together we all decided that we would continue and be based in Sweden. It was kind of hard in the beginning with all the visas but finally it all sorted it self out.
2/ You have a very powerful bluesy voice that brings shivers to the spine - for how long have you been practising? What are you main influences and what do they mean to you?
Elin: Thanks dude. That’s nice of you to put it that way. I don’t really know. I’ve been practicing my instrument with teachers since age of 14 back and forth. When I was 16 I went to music high school in Sweden. But I been singing a long time. as long as I can remember. I think what most inspired me was the love and joy music gave me. When I was singing it made me feel so much, you know? Made me feel happy and whole in a way, all the different emotions you feel x 1000. It was so cool to me. I know this maybe sound super deep or something but that was the main reason for why I started to sing. I always listen to big and bluesy, soulful voices , everything from R’n’B artists to Jazz, Blues, Soul and Rock. I think it’s a mix from all of it that made me find my own sound. Aretha Franklin is one of the main inspirations for me, since I listened to her a lot as a younger kid. When I got older I started to listen to more heavy music/psychedelic/rock ect. But I still have my heart for the soul and the blues of course. Of course my influences means a lot to me, even though I never met any of them personally they where still the ones that helped me and teaching me, I was listening to their music and singing their songs and so on. Which I think is super cool they did that without their physical presence.
3/ I read somewhere that the name Blues Pills came from a music blog. What are your thoughts on nowaday's music industry where digital releases are always expanding, CDs kinda going down and Vinyls, on the contrary, rising up again? What format do you like the most?
Elin: I kind of have a mixed feeling against it. It’s good, you can spread your music everywhere and there is so much music today, and back before the internet existed INCREDIBLE bands where playing that no one probably knows about. Then of course there is bad stuff with downloading as well. I think that if you’re really into a band, you should buy their album. And also you go to their shows and so on, which supports the band. I like vinyls, the artwork is bigger and also I like flipping the record over and it just feels more alive then digital and CD format.
4/ How did you come up to the - let's say, globally speaking - Psychedelic scene?
Elin: I started to listen to psychedelic and 60’s and 70’s rock when I was a teenager, started out when some dudes from my class wanted me to jam War Pigs with them in the basement in my old school. And that opened slowly the door to this kind of music. I had lot’s of musician friends that shared music with me and I with them. I’m not really into this mainstream pop star Idol lifestyle that's going on all around. It kind of had a backward effect on me. Back in the 60’s and 70’s there was just so many great vocalists and musicians, and songwriters, and the raw talent would shine through, probably because nowadays it all gets watered down with digital recording where everything can be fixed and autotuned and so on.
5/ Do you have any memorable life, musical moments in your young career that you would like to share with our readers?
Elin: I can’t think of something special now. Maybe.. don’t build a human pyramid while your on a festival concert with your drunk friends, will end kind of badly.. haha
6/ Blues Pills new album is gonna be released in July, the 25th. What can we expect from it, what are the themes you decided to explore this time?
Elin: This is the true sound of Blues Pills. I can definitely say that we are the most proud of this recording. We have some old songs that are really re arranged. It’s going to be fun to see how fans react on that. For me they are way better. Feels like we made the songs more full songs, they are finished from the ideas of them that we released on the EP’s before. Now also since working with a producer and recording in a real studio, it’s really a noticeable difference from the past stuff we put out. Basically all stuff before I see as demos that we recorded our selves that happened to get released. This is going to be the real deal. It’s a lot of rhythm and way groovier then our other stuff. Im exited to release it and I am so proud of the album and all the people being involved and working with it.
7/ I saw that Blues Pills are playing a lot of festivals. Do you actually prefer outdoors or indoors venues? and why?
Elin: I appreciate both. Outdoor shows usually have a better sound than the indoors venues we’ve been playing so far. But then again, you get closer to the Audience indoor than outside. So I like it as much playing indoor as outdoor.
8/ Tell me, how music is important for you, what does it represent to you? Plenty of good bands comes from Sweden, would you consider it too as a big scene of creativity and in a way, a main influence?
Elin: That’s a darn good question sir, getting deep . Wow where do I start?! Music brings people together, it makes people excited, it can bring the saddest person into a state of bliss. Make you look forward to something, make the day dreamers dream even wilder and rocking the unsleeping to the heaviest sleep. It can help you through hard times and struggles you have to deal with in your life and connect to the darkest of your thoughts. It can also make the good stuff feel even better than it already felt . Music is the cherry on top of the cream and the cream is your life. Sometimes it’s a big mess and sometimes it’s too sweet, but sometimes it’s really perfect.
Sweden definitely has a very rich music scene. There is no doubt that it inspires creativity. Being around so many good musicians, seeing lots of good bands, it all contributes, and pushes you to be even better.
9/ Desert Island question is a kind of tradition. So, here we go! Give me one record, one movie, one book you would take with you there ?!
Elin:
Album: Etta James - At Last
Movie: Hot Rod
Book: Robinson Crusoe
10/ What are your ideals in life, things, themes you like to fight for?
Elin: I could probably write you a book based on this question, but I will keep it simple. I think happiness is the most important. But the hard part is how we get there.
11/ Last lines are entirely yours... Feel free to share with us anything that comes up to your mind right now!
Elin: Thanks Louis for taking interest in Blues Pills and doing this interview.
Hope to see you at one of our shows in the near future!
Best Regards From Sweden Elin Larsson, Blues Pills
Louis Hauguel for Fuzzine. (2014)
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Interview with Paul Dean, bassist of the 70's heavy psych bands Jerusalem, Pussy.
Il y a de ces groupes qui vous déversent des riffs assommant, des
coups de matraques frénétiques à la tête. Jerusalem en fait clairement
parti. C'est un peu l'effet d'une baraque remplie de dynamite qui vous
explose soudainement à la tronche. Et si ce n'était que les riffs. La
batterie vous prends et vous retourne comme une crêpe. La voix
déchirante de Lynden Williams nous plonge tour à tour dans l'hystérie et
puis l'angoisse, nous envoie dans des dimensions démentes faites de
chauves-souris de l'enfer ou d'innommables créatures pré-humaines. Peu
importe. C'est tout le groupe qui vous maintient la gorge et vous lance
l'équivalent d'une damnation éternelle dans la gueule. Il y a une grande
urgence, pas de complexes, on y va brute de décoffrage et peu importe
le nombre de têtes qui tombent au passage. Une pochette étrange,
torturée qui vous invite au pays du délire cauchemardesque et autres
tortures mentales.
Louis Hauguel : Hi Paul and thanks for accepting that interview, so here we are, how did the band get together ? What's the story behind the name "Jerusalem " ?
Louis Hauguel : Hi Paul and thanks for accepting that interview, so here we are, how did the band get together ? What's the story behind the name "Jerusalem " ?
Paul Dean : At the age of 15 when we were at school, Ray Sparrow, Chris (Kef) Schelcher and I went to see John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. We were so blown away by this electric 12 bar blues that the next day we decided to start a band. None of us could play an instrument, so we were starting from zero. I chose bass and vocals, Ray drums and Kef guitar. I also wrote the songs and in actual fact at no time in the history of Jerusalem or Pussy did we ever do a cover. So it began. Later on we pulled in Bill Hinde a friend from when I went to College. As we became more serious Kef decided to concentrate on his education, so we pulled in Bob Cooke, another friend from College. Then came another friend Phil Goddard on vocals as I wanted to concentrate on the writing and bass. As we became more professional Phil decided to leave and we held auditions in London for a singer and chose Lynden. By this time Ian Gillan had signed us up along with my sister Zoe and then came the album.
The name
Jerusalem came because it was the only piece of music I liked at school
assembly (very powerful classical piece). We actually played a few bars
of it in a rock format at the beginning of our shows. The other reason
was that you should always choose a very strong name that people can
connect with easily. There was absolutely no religious reason for this
choice, it was just a word that everyone in the World knew. Jerusalem
has always been a headline city for thousands of years for many
different reasons. Strong, powerful and birthplace of ideas, beliefs,
confrontation, a centre of innovation and change, a melting pot for all
races, not all good, but neither is life...
2/
The 70's just started, psychedelic rock evolved into a more raw and
progressive music. How was the process of creation of your unique album
and how did you meet Ian Gillan from Deep Purple ?
Ian was a friend of my sisters from his days in Episode 6. She met him again at a Deep Purple concert as Black Night hit number one. Anyway, she brought him back to my mother’s house and so our relationship began, more like brothers at times, did a lot of stuff together away from music. What was funny was when he walked in the house I was playing the first Black Sabbath album, he asked who it was because he liked it, little knowing that a few years later he would join them for a short time. Deep Purple’s managers were also interested in Jerusalem, but Ian decided he wanted us.
The late 60’s blues boom gave birth to
Rock (Cream, Hendrix) then Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath etc.
The bands then started progressing in all kinds of directions and some
becoming more sophisticated and technical - Yes, Genesis etc. To be
honest we didn’t have any major influences, Ray and I just liked it
heavy and raw, no rules, and if it sounded good to us we did it. People
either loved us or hated us. It’s funny to think now that what we were
doing then would become huge within a few years as Metal, Doom, Stoner
etc. took off. One of the strangest questions I was ever asked by a
journalist was ‘You were obviously very influenced by Metallica’. He had
obviously not done his research as we were doing it 5 years before
Metallica. Think this is why Jerusalem has now become so popular, as
younger people are searching back to see where everything started. At
least we have the last laugh on all the journalists who slammed us at
the time. I was the main writer and Ray and I made all the final
decisions about everything, so Jerusalem was pretty much our baby and
what we wanted.
3/ The album is terrific in
terms of energy, very raw and heavy as well as the vocals that sounds
sometimes like screams from the beyond. So I was wondering, how was it
on the stage ? Did you have the impression of blowing away people with
some music that they were maybe not used to yet ? Like "wow, this is
mind blowing!"
On stage in the early days there were people that walked out and people that stayed. It was real love/hate. Over time we began to build a following and the word spread, so eventually most people stayed and a few who were there by accident raced out the door. As I said before, Ray and I liked it raw and heavy and as Ian said on the album almost crude. The ‘screams’ is actually an interesting story. Lynden was basically chosen for his showmanship. Once we had practised a few times I realised most of our songs were in the wrong key for him. But I really liked the sound of him stretching and straining. I had a word with Ian and we both agreed it was a good sound, so we didn’t change the keys. It was quite punishing for Lynden in the studio, but gave us something a bit different. On stage anything could happen especially when I wound Lynden up a bit. It all added to the meaning of some of the songs and kept the audience on their toes. We had some amazing followers who would turn up all over the UK. Probably the biggest ‘mind blowing’ episode were two huge festivals we did in Austria and Germany (50,000 in Germany). We were virtually the only unknown band on the bill. Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Rod Stewart…
Anyway, when we came on stage many people started wandering out for a drink, food or the toilet. Then much to our amazement once we hit the first 30 seconds of our opening number (think it was Frustration) everyone turned around and ran back in to watch us. Ian Hansford Deep Purples Road Manager who was also mixing for us said it was one of the strangest things he had ever seen. They even showed it on Austrian TV news.
4/ Let's talk about your influences and the band's influences, what were the bands that inspired you to create your very own sound ? Was it difficult to have everybody playing in the same musical direction ? Was there other influences than music itself ?
As I said earlier, we really didn’t have any strong influences. I did most of the writing. Ray and I’s taste in listening music was extremely varied, but similar, we just liked Rock for our band. The heavier the better. That’s why my favourite is still ‘Primitive Man’. Eventually, yes it did become a problem keeping our direction, which is why Ray and I decided to end the band. Lynden and Bill wanted to go a different way and Bob was stuck in the middle. Talked it through with Ian and he agreed. Once you have achieved your aim maybe time to move on. Ray and I could have changed the personnel and continued as Jerusalem, but that was not an option as in Jerusalem we had created a unique sound, so whatever we did next should be a totally new concept. Thus was born Pussy. Other influences were the usual ones, growing up, new experiences, disillusionment with the way the World was going and to an extent the music business. It was slowly being taken over by lawyers and accountants and most had little knowledge of music itself. We were lucky that when we were signed there were still a number of ex-musicians in the Record companies. If not for them, Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Cream etc. would never have had the opportunity to change the face of music. Pussy in a way was a piss take of the way the business was going, so we just chose not to follow the rules of the ‘new era’ which was fun. The music was still serious, but we wouldn’t compromise and become what others wanted us to become.
5/ What do you remember about the "Pussy" times ? What kind of inspirations were you having during that period of time ?
I’ve pretty much covered this in the previous question. Because of our attitude which was endorsed by Ian, it became very difficult to get a deal. Ian pulled out of our deal with Deram (Decca) after the ‘Feline Woman’ single because Sam Hamilton who had signed Jerusalem and Pussy to Deram had left the Company and the new guys in were looking for their own signings. Pussy actually recorded a whole album, but it wasn’t released (this is often wrongly mentioned as a second Jerusalem album). Eventually we stopped Pussy. Then in the mid seventies Ian became a tax exile in Paris for a year or so. During this time music in France was going a different way and Ian thought it may be worth trying to sell Pussy there. As it turned out Ariola France wanted the album. Bob no longer wanted to be involved, so we pulled in another young American guitarist Brian Goff, who was a good friend of Ritchie Blackmore. We decided to redo all Bobs guitarwork on the original tracks and I also wrote some new songs. Unfortunately, Europe then went into recession and everything fell apart. By the way, Brian now lives in France. After all these years the Pussy album has recently been released by Rockadrome Records on CD for the first time ever following the successful release of the remastered reissued Jerusalem album on CD and vinyl, also Rockadrome. So, thank you France, for without the interest of Ariola France, this album would never have been made in its final form.
6/ How did the whole thing happen, what motivated you to go for that ?
I had been out of touch with the music scene in Europe and the USA for a number of years and had been living in Southern Africa, South America and the Caribbean. I eventually ended up in the Philippines and about 4 years ago I got an email from Rockadrome asking if I knew what a big cult following Jerusalem had. I then did some research and realised it was true. Universal had even rereleased the original album in 2004 in Japan. So we decided to remaster and reissue the album with a few extra’s. First on CD and then last year on vinyl. Because of the reaction it was then decided to also remaster and release the Pussy album. The most amazing thing is the number of young people, who have now got into both bands. Makes the whole thing very worthwhile. So sincere thanks to Rockadrome and also a Finnish guy Aki, who put up a fan site for Jerusalem on Myspace a few years ago, which also helped to kickstart the whole thing.
7/ These days, a lot
of new bands are appearing, very influenced by late 60's psych and 70's
prog rock. So I want to ask you, what are you listening to nowadays ?
Do you have some feedbacks from a generation like mine ( I'm 25 ) that
come to you to talk about Jerusalem or globally speaking about the two
periods of time mentioned before ?
To be honest, I’m still pretty hooked into the old stuff even though I actually do some Producing. Have done a few albums in the Philippines with local bands (lots of talent here), so I am close to what’s going on these days. I don’t mean this in a detrimental way, as there is some good stuff around now, but I find much of the music now is a kind of reinvention of past genres. Have fun sometimes with some bands, playing stuff from 30 – 40 years ago to show them what they thought was new, is actually the rebirth of something old. Think this is born out by the number of bands from the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s who are back on the road and playing to all ages.
8/ What are your current projects, whatever they are musical or not ?
Mainly Producing, even long distance. People send me through the tracks after discussions about the way they should record songs and I mix and Produce them here. Once music is in your blood it stays there. Wherever I have lived I have tried to help others. I was very lucky and in the right place at the right time, so try to give something back whenever I can.
Have
done many different things in my life, so never know what’s going to
happen tomorrow. Have written many articles about all kinds of subjects,
special extrain a few movies, played golf professionally and coached
others…
9/ Those lines are yours, do you have a last thing to add for our readers ?
Just a couple of things for audiences and artists
To
get up on stage and play music takes a lot of nerve and hardwork. If
you’re in the audience show a little bit of appreciation, even if you’re
not into the music. They’re doing something maybe you would like to do,
but don’t have the nerve or talent to try.
If you’re an
artist who wants to succeed, it’s bloody hardwork, believe me. Bands
from my era used to practice for hours everyday if they weren’t playing
live. When you get on stage all you should be doing is trying to
communicate with the audience. You should know the songs back to front
and upside down. In a studio every person should be able to play a song
all the way through by themselves, if not, you don’t know the song well
enough and are wasting money on your recording. Recording isn’t cheap!
You have to believe in everything you do, if you don’t why should anyone
else? The main key to success is to be different, if you’re too
influenced by your influences you may as well be a cover band or stay at
home and play to yourself. There is no such thing as bad music, if one
other person likes it, then it’s good. Stay true to your beliefs and
others will start to believe. All the best to all of you. Cheers, Paul.
Louis Hauguel for Fuzzine. (2013)
Interview avec Bernard Blanc aka B.B. Brutus, batteur du groupe Ergo Sum
Louis Hauguel : Tout d’abord, merci d’avoir accepté cette interview. Comment a débuté l’aventure Ergo Sum, et comment vous êtes-vous rencontrés ?
B.B. Brutus : C’est tout simple. Certains musiciens de Lemon Pie, groupe d’Aix-en-Provence voulaient faire une autre musique. Donc ils cherchaient à rencontrer d’autres musiciens, même si leur choix musical n’était pas vraiment défini. J’avais fait partie d’un groupe, à Aix-en-Provence, durant les années 1966/1968, les What’s. J’avais gardé des contacts et c’est comme cela que j’ai fait leur rencontre. C’était à l’été 1970. J’étais avec le groupe Barricade, de Marseille (festivals de Biot-Valbonne). Ils me disaient qu’ils cherchaient des musiciens pour démarrer une formation. Je suis resté quelques jours en leur compagnie pour apprendre à les connaître, puis on s’est réunis dans une ferme pour jouer. D’autres musiciens étaient là ; en fait, il s’agissait de savoir si je faisais l’affaire ! On a ensuite cherché un lieu pour répéter ; pour habiter aussi, car sur les quatre qui étaient d’accord pour démarrer, il n’y en avait qu’un qui habitait la région — chez sa famille ! On a d’abord trouvé un garage, puis une toute petite maison, à quelques kilomètres d’Aix, à Gréasque, chemin de la fontaine des Dieux. On s’est donc installé là ; on a débuté à quatre, car le guitariste n’était pas trop chaud ! Quelques mois plus tard, après des jours et des nuits de travail, nous avions un répertoire d’une vingtaine de morceaux. On fait quelques bœufs avec des amis de passage, et le guitariste qui n’était pas très chaud est venu nous voir. On lui a montré nos morceaux, ça l’a emballé, et on s’est retrouvés fin prêts ; ils nous manquait seulement du matos. On avait un peu d’argent. On a acheté un camion d’occase, et on est partis pour l’Angleterre... le pays des Beatles, des Stones ! J’y croyais pas ! On a fait tous les magasins. Le chanteur a acheté la Gibson blanche (gravée), avec sa caisse, du groupe East of Eden. Moi, j’ai trouvé la cymbale qui m’a servi de gong sur le morceau Tijuana ! On a aussi acheté une sono WEN, des têtes d’amplis Orange, et d’autres accessoires encore. Ensuite, on est allé à un concert de Family. De retour, on s’est arrêtés à Saint-Étienne pour voir une amie et on a fait la connaissance du violoniste. Il était libre et on l’a emmené avec nous à Gréasque. On a repris alors les morceaux avec lui et c’est comme ça que Ergo Sum a démarré.
Louis : Quelles sont les grosses influences du groupe ? Quels sont les éléments qui ont contribués au son bien spécifique de votre album ?
B.B. : L’influence mutuelle, c’était les années 50 : le rockabilly. Ça, c’est sûr ! Des gars comme Elvis Presley, Eddie Cochran, Gene Vincent par exemple. En ce qui me concerne, à 10 ans, je participais à des concours de chant. J’avais comme pseudo Johnny-guitare, je chantais Tutti Fruttii en yaourt, et j’étais accompagné par Les Bretelles Rock ! Comme tous les jeunes, chacun a joué avec des groupes dont l’influence était le blues-rock anglais : les Rolling Stones, John Mayall, Eric Clapton, les Animals, les Yardbirds, j’en passe. Avec Ergo Sum, hormis le rock ’n’ roll, on écoutait du jazz, des musiciens comme John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Tony Williams, Wayne Shorter, mais aussi les Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Rory Gallagher. C’était une période riche, ouverte, variée : on voyageait musicalement ; quand on allait chez des amis, on écoutait des musiques différentes, on faisait des bœufs avec des musiciens de rencontre. Les énergies étaient différentes, ça donnait envie de jouer. Le guitariste adorait Alvin Lee (NDLR : le guitariste de Ten Years After) et son morceau favori était I’m Going Home. Le chanteur aimait beaucoup le jazz et la musique mexicaine.
Louis : Comment s’est passé l’enregistrement de Mexico au Château d’Hérouville ? As-tu quelques petites anecdotes à nous livrer ?
B.B. : On a enregistré en plusieurs fois. La première fois, c’était en août 1971. On est arrivés de nuit en camion, avec le matériel. Il était tard et on ne voulait déranger personne, alors on s’est garés dans une petite forêt, pas loin du Château. Le matin, on était malades à gerber : on s’était garés sous un pylône électrique de quatre cent mille volts. Le studio était superbe et on nous a reçu magnifiquement. On a eu le plaisir de voir MC5 jouer trois morceaux. Le groupe était filmé pour Pop 2, l’émission de Bernard Lenoir. Ils sont arrivés à 10 heures du soir dans un combi Volkswagen. Ils ont installé leur matos rapidement. Ils ont joué et ils sont repartis. Je n’en croyais pas mes yeux, là, devant moi, en live, les MC5. C’est pas tout. Le jour où on a enregistré All’s so comic (qui a duré la journée pour la mise en place), j’ai fait l’échange de mon T-shirt d’Ergo Sum — avec le pied dans la bouche : l’affiche de notre concert au festival Ampus Pop — avec un musicien du Grateful Dead (ils devaient jouer à Auvers-sur-Oise, mais le concert avait été annulé) ; lui m’a donné un T-shirt du Dead Number One USA, à l’effigie d’une Harley Davidson (devant et derrière) ; je ne l’ai pas quitté pendant des jours.
Louis : Un concert d’Ergo Sum, c’était quoi pour toi ? À quoi devait s’attendre le public en vous voyant ?
B.B. : Le premier concert que nous avons fait, c’était en 1970, à la Pointe Rouge, à Marseille, une boîte à la mode ; plein de groupes de l’époque y jouaient, dont Titanic. On était engagés pour le week-end. On se disait que c’était super, qu’on allait faire connaître Ergo Sum chez nous, à une heure de la maison. On avait à peine commencé notre set, on en était au troisième morceau quand le patron de la boîte nous a fait signe d’arrêter et nous a dit : « Hey, les gars ! Y a personne qui danse ! Vous n’avez pas autre chose ? ». On a remballé sans perdre un instant, on était trop avant-garde pour l’endroit, on était des extra-terrestres. Un concert d’Ergo Sum, c’était comme un voyage, une histoire que l’on racontait car les chansons véhiculaient une histoire, un climat, une atmosphère, et on était heureux de la partager avec le public. All’s so comic, enregistré live, donne une bonne idée de ce qu’étaient nos concerts. En fait, c’est à un spectateur qu’il aurait fallu demander ce qu’il pensait d’Ergo Sum ! Après la Pointe Rouge, nous sommes montés à Paris pour le « tremplin » du Golf Drouot, et on a gagné ce tremplin.
Louis : Vous avez tourné avec d’autres groupes de l’écurie Thélème, as-tu quelques anecdotes ?
B.B. : En fait, on n’a pas tellement tourné ! On a fait plusieurs fois le Golf Drouot d’Henry Leproux. On a participé à quelques festivals aussi : celui de Saint-Gratien en hommage au groupe Storm (trois jours de musique non-stop) ; le festival de Malaval, dans l’Ain ; Ampus Pop, en 1971. On a aussi joué au Gibus, à Paris, parrainés et présentés par Sacha Reins du magazine Best. Et puis, il y a eu un concert à Marignan, plus deux, trois concerts pour les radios : Europe 1 (l’émission Campus, avec une interview en compagnie de Patrick Topaloff), RMC, France Inter avec José Arthur, la maison de la radio aussi... J’en oublie, mais bon, on n’en a pas fait tellement jusqu’à ce que je m’en aille en 1973. J’étais parti faire les vendanges, puis un tas de circonstances ont amené le groupe à se séparer. Deux des premiers musiciens ont continué et remonté Ergo Sum, puis ça été fini.
Louis : Aujourd’hui votre album est une pièce de collection, et votre musique est très appréciée, pourquoi, selon toi, n’avez-vous pas eu plus de succès à l’époque ?
B.B. : Que dire ? Ergo Sum était original pour cette période, mais tout autant que d’autres groupes qui mélangeaient un tas d’influences, rock, blues, jazz, etc. Il se passait, en fait, ce qui s’est passé dans les années 80 avec le rock français : il y avait un tas de groupes aussi bons que Téléphone dans chaque ville, mais le show-biz a misé sur Téléphone, et voilà. À chaque époque, c’est pareil : on prend un groupe qui représente bien le moment, on le matraque en radio et hop, on passe à la caisse !
Louis : As-tu une idée du nombre d’exemplaires pressés à l’époque ?
B.B. : 10 000, je crois. Mais on peut toujours trouver le CD chez Musea, qui l’a réédité en 1994, et il y a une nouvelle réédition USA de 2007 sur Lyon Production, remixée par Vincent Tomatore ; il y a les liens des catalogues sur le myspace d’Ergo Sum.
Louis : L’album en lui même est très riche, « toujours énergique mais jamais violent », on note des titres comme Tijuana et Mexico, est-ce un hasard ou y a-t-il un intérêt prononcé pour l’Amérique latine ?
B.B : Comme je te le disais, le chanteur adorait la musique mexicaine — d’où Mexico et Tijuana. Il avait passé une partie de son adolescence au Mexique. Il nous parlait mexicano, on habla espagnol, et aussi de Pancho Villa, un personnage très aimé au Mexique.
Louis : Que penses-tu de la scène musicale française d’aujourd’hui, y a-t-il des groupes qui t’accrochent en particulier ?
B.B. : Je ne donnerai pas de noms, mais il y en a plein et grâce à Internet et tous les sites comme Starshit, Sellaband, Rock’N’France, Zikpot, Lyberty, Tagworld, Hitmuse, Musite, SFR Jeunes Talents et Youtube, tu as le choix et il y en a vraiment pour tous les goûts. Bon, les plus récents se ressemblent un peu, mais, quelques-uns devraient émerger s’ils tiennent la longueur. J’espère bien, sinon ça sera les machines qui donneront le ton. Ça va comme ça les robots, non ? Tant qu’il y aura des groupes, il y aura de la bonne musique. Merci Louis pour ce petit retour dans le passé, pas si lointain que ça finalement.
Louis : Merci à toi, surtout, d’avoir accepté de te prêter au jeu ; je pense que ça donnera envie aux gens de découvrir ou redécouvrir le groupe et l’album.
http://psychedelisme.com/Ergo-Sum
Louis Hauguel, 2010
Interview avec Peter Daltrey ( Kaleidoscope - UK, Fairfield Parlour )
La vie ne tient parfois à pas grand-chose. À ces petits moments de bonheur s’évaporant aussi vite qu’ils vous ont étourdi, instants aussi futiles qu’illusoires. Le temps d’une intro délicatement envoutante vous enveloppant de ses cordes chaleureuses et mélancoliques, suivie d’une mélodie enchanteresse et féérique que vient boucler un refrain répétitif, magique… The Sky Children et ses 8 minutes de beauté totale, qui pourrait tourner des heures et des heures sur la platine, sans jamais en ressentir l’ennui par tant de pureté. Arrangements au panthéon de l’extase absolue, innocence retrouvée le temps de ré-atterrir fébrilement de ce voyage sonore.
The Sky Children. Morceau au combien grandiose que l’on retrouve dans le répertoire des Kaleidoscope, combo londonien mené par le talentueux et magnifique songwriter Peter Daltrey. Deux albums au compteur, qui enivre votre rédacteur à chaque écoute, splendide d’un bout à l’autre, chef d’œuvre de pop parfaite que l’on pourrait aisément ranger devant le Odissey&Oracles des Zombies, ou encore le Smile des Beach Boys, monuments d’érudition pop galvaudée par tant d’arrangements oniriques.
Quand l’occasion s’est présenté de rencontrer Peter Daltrey, autant vous dire qu’on s’est pas fait prié. Résultat grandiose tant Peter s’est prêté allègrement au jeu, revenant sur une carrière emplie de nostalgie et de souvenirs, avec la plus grande simplicité du monde. Peter Daltrey.
Louis Hauguel : Il y a une certaine innocence dans vos chansons, une nostalgie enfantine. Quel était votre secret pour écrire de si beaux morceaux ? On pense notamment à The Sky Children?
Peter Daltrey : Le groupe était en vacances, pendant l’été 1964. A Swanage, une ville touristique du Dorset, sur la cote Sud de l’Angleterre. À la sortie de la ville, il y avait un château Victorien, c’était une belle journée d’été, avec un ciel presque bleu, juste quelques nuages hauts dans le ciel. Nous avons cherché le château un moment, et finalement trouvé un chemin menant à la mer. En bas était une plage de cailloux, de gros rochers s’étant détachés des falaises. La mer s’écrasait sur le rivage, le bruit était assourdissant, mais merveilleux. La nature brute. Swanage, au loin, scintillait dans la brume. Nous avons donc décidé de retourner en ville, en suivant la plage. C’était difficile, les rochers avaient la taille d’une voiture, il était maintenant midi, et le soleil tapait dur. À notre droite, l’océan grondait. Tous les quatre avons été séparé, et je me suis retrouvé dernier. Pour une raison inconnue, une ligne m’est venue, « Un million de fleurs blanches dans un champ céleste ». Ed (Pumer, le guitariste) et moi écrivions toujours selon la même formule : moi les paroles, lui la musique. Écrire une chanson n’est rien moins que de s’inspirer de l’air du temps, et de la transformer en mots. Et l’inspiration, par définition, ne se produit pas à la demande. Sa blague favorite est de s’insinuer dans vos pensées, juste au moment où vous allez vous endormir. Un mot et une ligne vont se former dans votre esprit, navigant dans votre conscience, alors que vous allez sombrer. Mais attention, si vous les ignorées elles vont simplement disparaître, au matin elles seront parties.
Donc, vous revenez du pays des rêves, attrapez un stylo et un papier, griffonné, et retournez vous écrouler. Le soleil se lève, les yeux sont bouffis, la vessie pleine, la bouche en feu, les oreilles bourdonnent. Vous lorgnez sur le papier, en général c’est merdique, parfois inspiré. Dans ce cas, je marchais le long d’une plage, sans papier et sans stylo. Une autre phrase m’est venue, puis encore une. Là j’étais mal. J’avais deux options, refuser de laisser fonctionner mon cerveau, sachant bien comment ce serait dur de retrouver mes mots. Ou accepter les mots qui émergeaient, comme d’une éponge, et tenter de les mémoriser. Après tout, toutes les chansons comportent d’un à trois couplets, et un refrain. J’ignorais que j’étais en train d’écrire une de nos plus longues chansons. Encore plus de mots, je les assemblais, le rythme se formait, une histoire commençait à émerger. Je devais tout reprendre du début, assemblant les couplets dans ma tête. En essayant désespérément de garder le tout dans le bon ordre. Dan (Brigdman, le batteur) était juste devant moi. Il s’est arrêté, m’a demandé si j’allais bien. J’ai répondu que j’écrivais une chanson, il a secoué la tête, apparemment décidé à me laisser tranquille. Il y avait tant de lignes, que je m’y perdais, tout se mélangeait. Il faisait chaud, j’étais en sueur. Quand nous sommes arrivés en ville, je me suis précipité pour transcrire ce dont je me souvenais.
De retour à Londres, les paroles ont été affinées et finalisées. Ed est venu avec une mélodie très simple, qui capturait parfaitement l’esprit. Le conte de fées d’un groupe d’enfants, en quête de magie. C’est facile de se moquer aujourd’hui. Avec nos oreilles modernes, voire usées, tout ceci semble idiot. Mais il faut replacer dans le contexte, revenir à 1967. J’étais influencé par Donovan, sur des chansons comme ça. Les gens disent que j’avais trop lu Tolkien, alors que j’ignorais même qui il était. Mais j’absorbais tout ce que j’entendais autour de moi. Je ne me souviens pas de l’enregistrement de Sky Childern, mais je le soupçonne de venir d’une session tardive, dans les studios Phillips, à Marble Arch. Avec les lumières éteintes, juste une ou deux bougies sur un ampli. Vraiment magique.
Louis : Faintly Blowing semblait plus diversifiée, alternant les moments de calme et de violence. Quelle a été votre approche au niveau de la production ?
Peter : Ed et moi n’avons jamais cessé d’écrire des chansons. On en avait toujours plus que nécessaire. Certains groupes sont obligés de faire un album, et composent en studio. Alors que nous arrivions avec notre stock de chansons. Sachant parfaitement ce que nous voulions, ayant déjà présenté nos morceaux au producteur (Dick Leachy) et reçu son aval enthousiaste. Tangerine Dream a été écrit principalement en 1965/66. Bien qu’à cette époque nous ayons été ensemble depuis deux ans, nous étions toujours novices. On apprenait notre métier. En 1967/68, la confiance était là, ainsi qu’une structure pour notre musique. Dans la mesure où nous étions sous contrat avec une maison de disques, qui était convaincue que nous étions les prochains Beatles. Sérieusement, c’est que nous disaient les gens de Phillips.
La période psychédélique a été très courte. Une fusée multicolore, tirée dans le ciel en 1966, nous étourdissant tous par sa brillance. Qui est doucement retombée sur terre en 1968. Les braises ayant continué à brûler jusqu’à la fin de cette année là. Pour notre genre musical, on était certainement au bon endroit au bon moment. Londres vibrait de bons plans. Nous étions jeunes, naïfs, confiants dans nos possibilités, impossibles à stopper. Début 1968, notre écriture était beaucoup plus adulte. Mais toujours dans le style psyché, fidèle à nos racines. Je me souviens de Sunny Side Circus à ce moment là. Mais nous étions insatisfaits du résultat, et le titre a dû attendre From Home To Home pour apparaître. Un peu décalé, sur le dernier album.
Avec un budget conséquent, notre son avait été augmenté d’un orchestre. Ce qui avait certainement élargi une approche plus mature. Je n’écoute plus nos disques (plus beaucoup de musique en fait, puisque j’ai fait cadeau de mon ouïe au groupe), mais sur nos deux albums, c’est le morceau Faintly Blowing qui porte la couronne.
Ma mémoire est pleine de trous, donc peut de détails restent. Mais je me souviens que nous avions fait un effort commun, pour que les morceaux soient le plus excentriques possible. Notre producteur nous poussait, lui qui voulait se faire un nom. Quand la base a été enregistrée, on a ajouté une partie vocale. Ensuite, on a embelli le tout avec divers bruits. La semaine d’après, nous avons été conviés au studio pour écouter le premier mixage. La production avait adouci le tout avec du phasing, au lieu de garder l’effet pour la fin. Mais nous avons été convaincus que c’était le bon son pour la chanson. Jeunes et tenus dans une crainte respectueuse par notre maison de disques, nous avons décidé de laisser filer. Aujourd’hui, je reçois régulièrement des mails de fans, jeunes et vieux, qui vantent les charmes de Music. C’est une question de goût, je crois.
Louis : Kaleidoscope a sorti un single intitulé Isle Of Wight Festival Theme en 1970, sous le nom de I Luv Whight. Vous avez joué le vendredi 28, en tant que Fairfield Parlour, et il semble que vous ayez été informé (par lettre anonyme) que le premier groupe qui passerait, se ferait tirer dessus.
Peter : En Mai/Juin 1970, notre manager avait beaucoup discuté avec les frères Foulk, organisateurs du festival. Un joli coup pour lui. Non seulement, le groupe avait une place sur l’affiche, mais les deux filous étaient d’accord pour que nous écrivions et enregistrions une chanson. Laquelle sortirait sous la bannière The Official Isle Of Wight Festival Song 1970. Encore mieux, il était convenu que le morceau passe entre chaque concert. Cette publicité massive, avec les passages radios, servirait au moins à donner au groupe le hit qu’il attendait depuis si longtemps. Les représentants légaux ont rédigé un contrat, qui a été signé par les deux parties. Le jeudi, nous étions assis dans la salle de télé du Shanklin Clarendon Hotel. On prenait des trucs durs : de gros pots de thé, couleur créosote. Dave (Symonds, le manager) a suggéré que nous regardions les informations, pour voir si on y parlait du festival. Deuxième titre : « L’IRA a annoncé que, pour protester contre la présence anglaise en Irlande, elle tirerait sur le premier groupe du festival de Wight, demain ».
Qui est le premier groupe ? Avons-nous demandé à notre manager.
Vous.
Le vendredi, on traînait en attendant de jouer. Tous nerveux. C’était un concert majeur pour nous. Nous nous sommes retrouvés devant un quart de million de personnes. Dan a tapé sur un tom, Steve (Clark) a tiré sur une corde de basse, Ed se raccordait. Je me suis approché du micro, le cœur battant. Les accords familiers de Eyewitness, j’ai ouvert ma bouche, sèche comme un os. We Know You Have Seen A Lot Of Things, c’était approprié. Le son était curieusement bas, alors qu’on s’attendait à être assourdi par les murs d’amplis. Ces bâtards avaient seulement tourné le bouton de volume à cinq. Et maintenant Aries, cet hymne nostalgique à la jeunesse. Mais le son disparaît dans l’espace ouvert, vers la colline. Vous pouviez presque le voir s’évaporer dans l’air. Applaudissement chaleureux, mais attendez, l’IRA…….S’ils descendent quelqu'un, ce sera le chanteur, au centre de la scène, les bras ouverts, la cible parfaite. Pendant un moment, j’ai pensé à repérer le flingue, mais suis instantanément revenu à la réalité. Pas le moment de penser à ma mort. Je pouvais le faire plus tard, dans un bain de sang, en coulisse. Ma vie se mêlant à l’herbe piétinée, comme de la neige rouge. Ma bouche formant un dernier mot, « Bâtards ». Après un concert trop court, nous avons quitté la scène, content d’être encore vivant. En fait, c’était un pétard mouillé, juste pour faire de la pub à leur cause aveugle.
Louis : Vous faites toujours de la musique aujourd’hui, et avez sorti de nombreux albums. Étés vous ouvert à de nouvelles influences ? Ou êtes-vous nostalgiques des années 60/70 ?
Peter : Quand le groupe s’est séparé, j’ai quitté Londres, pour les vertes collines du Wilshire. Après deux décennies de silence, l’urgence créative est revenue, un besoin d’écrire. Je me suis mis à composer et à enregistrer mes propres chansons. Aujourd’hui, j’ai sorti quatorze albums en un DVD. Je vends mes disques sur mes deux sites : www.chelsearecords.co.uk (véritable mine de renseignements) et www.myspace.com/peterdaltrey. Il y a eu de bons retours des fans. Ils me disent que ma voix est restée la même, et qu’ils aiment ce que je fais. Dans la mesure où je suis la trace de Kaleidoscope et Fairfield Parlour. C’est inévitable, je ne peux pas (et ne veux pas) échapper à mes racines. La nostalgie donne un sentiment de mélancolie chaleureuse. Mais c’est essentiellement auto indulgent et vain. Je préfère vivre dans le présent. Être concerné par ma prochaine chanson, que par celles qui ont quarante ans. Ce qui n’est pas pour dénigrer notre travail passé. J’en suis fier, et toujours ému que les jeunes générations découvrent et aiment nos disques. Je me sens immortel, ce à quoi tout le monde aspire.
Mes années avec le groupe étaient frustrantes. Parce que nous avons vu le succès nous échapper. Ce qui n’était pas notre faute. Notre maison de disques était inutile, incapable de fournir nos disques aux fans qui les voulaient. Et le manque d’un manager, quand nous étions Kaleidoscope, nous a sérieusement handicapé dans nos contacts avec les dirigeants de notre compagnie. Nous avons eu trois hits (Jenny Artichoke, Bordeaux Rose, Let The World Wash In), mais sans réel succès. Les deux premiers, gros carton sur les électrophones, ont échoué dans les charts, à cause de l’inefficacité, de la maison de disques. Le troisième parce que les frères Foulk ont renégocié notre contrat, pour promouvoir le single pendant le festival. Donc, j’ai des souvenirs, mais ne m’y penche pas.
Louis : Avez-vous des histoires de concerts à raconter ?
Peter : Nous en avons fait tant que tout s’est fondu en un seul morceau dans ma mémoire.
Louis : À quoi pouvait-on s’attendre en venant à un concert de Kaleidoscope ?
Peter : Nous avions plusieurs personnalités. Pour nos premiers concerts, vous vous seriez sûrement retrouvé dans un club de jeunesse malodorant, ou une salle paroissiale poussiéreuse. Quelques gamins embarrassés, autorisés à leur première sortie par des parents autoritaires, se bousculant, agrippant nerveusement leur verre de limonade. Le groupe, quatre jeunots maladroits, The Sidekicks. Nous jouions les premières chansons des Rolling Stones et des Beatles, des blues de Mose Allison ou Muddy Waters. Le son n’était pas excellent, car nous avions seulement quelques amplis bon marché. Le chanteur était rivé au projecteur, agrippant son micro, tentant désespérément de se souvenir des paroles. Après à peu près une heure, le groupe était à court de chansons, et devait commencer à répéter son set. Mais presque personne ne remarquait rien, ils étaient occupés avec les jeux de la puberté.
Si vous aviez vu The Key, ça aurait été dans l’arrière salle obscure d’un pub. Le groupe sur le sol, dans un coin. Ou dans un collège. Dans le pub, vous auriez été entouré de rockers graisseux, cherchant la castagne ou de quoi se défouler, plutôt qu’écoutant. Une épaisse puanteur de bière et de sueur, et un air d’anticipation. Pas du groupe, mais de la putain de baston. Dans un collège, la salle aurait été plus large, et le groupe sur une scène. Un public jeune, intense, avec des verres de cidre ou de bière. Il y avait des projecteurs et peut être quelques jeux de lumière. On jouait toujours nos reprises de blues, mais on avait incorporé plusieurs chansons à nous. Vêtus de chemises bouffantes, et de Beatles boots Anello and Daniel. Une fille en mini-jupe était assise sur scène. Entre chaque morceau, elle lisait une ou deux lignes de poésie. À la fin de la dernière chanson (une pièce de résistance épique, oubliée depuis longtemps, nommée Face), le groupe emmenait le chanteur qui venait de s’évanouir. Du sang coulant de sa bouche. À l’université de Brune, où ceci s’est déroulé, vous auriez pu voir le public devenir sauvage. Et les organisateurs nous ficher dehors, pour avoir enfreint les bonnes mœurs. Ils semblaient peu apprécier notre mise en scène ampoulée. Et les capsules de sang, achetées dans un magasin de farces et attrapes, sur la route.
Un concert de Kaleidoscope se déroulait dans une université, ou un club. En compagnie de gens vêtus tout en couleurs. Le groupe superbement équipé de matériel tout neuf. La sono de meilleure qualité, on jouait fort. Le répertoire était entièrement original (Dive Into Yesterday, Snapdragon, Love Song For Annie, Music). Cette dernière chanson était le final, une cacophonie. Qui, en général, en faisait demander plus au public. Pas de sang cette fois, mais de la vraie sueur.
Un gig de Fairfield Parlour se déroulait toujours dans une université. Le public habillé plus sobrement. Vêtement sombre et grands chapeaux. Toute la soirée avait un air beaucoup plus mature, avec nombre de morceaux acoustiques. Steve jouait de la flûte sur Eyewitness, et moi du clavicorde sur Soldiers Of The Flesh. Vous auriez pu nous voir au Mothers de Birmingham, juste au-dessus de chez le tailleur Burton. L’endroit méritait un effort. On a joué là-bas plusieurs fois, toujours chaleureusement accueilli. C’est dans cet endroit que Dan s’est démoli, en se coinçant un nerf de la colonne vertébrale, après un concert particulièrement énergique. On pensait qu’il allait mourir sous nos yeux. Il a passé des semaines à l’hôpital, survécu, et nous a rejoint, en vrai grognard. Mais il porte toujours les séquelles de cette nuit là.
Louis : Contrairement aux USA, le psychédélisme anglais semblait avoir des difficultés à s’adapter à son environnement. Quelles sont pour vous les différences entre les deux ?
Peter : Les deux sont bien distincts. La version US a été fortement influencée par l’émergence de la drogue culture. Particulièrement à San Francisco. La musique, bien que retenant les éléments essentiels (guitare bruyante, bizarrerie contrôlée, paroles obscures) était en général plus lourde. En Angleterre, c’était plus aérien. Et certains diraient avec des textes plus compréhensibles. Nous étions influencés par les contes de fées, le côté gentil de la vie. Qui va probablement vous ramener à votre enfance. La drogue était présente (pas dans notre cas, du moins), mais de façon plus subtile. Je pense pouvoir dire que c’est cette version que je préfère. Le mouvement psychédélique a été très bref, un phénomène musical qui a défini sa propre époque. Partie d’une ère brève, fleurissant sans raison apparente. Semblant offrir un doux chemin coloré vers le futur. Mais se consumant dans les excès, sur la fin. Donnant naissance à la soi-disant musique progressive. On a suivi le mouvement, et secoué nos fringues de hippies, pour devenir Fairfield Parlour.
Louis : Que pensez-vous du téléchargement ? Tangerine Dream a été réédité plusieurs fois, vous à t’on demandé votre avis ? Avez-vous eu un retour financier ?
Peter : Un point qui fait très mal. Comme quatre jeunes naïfs, nous étions (et tant d’autres avant nous, y compris les Beatles) manipulés par une multinationale. Je doute que nous ayons même lu le contrat, avant de le signer. J’en veux toujours à Dick Leahy, notre producteur, de ne pas nous avoir incité à prendre un manager. Il nous aurait représenté, et discuté avec la maison de disques. Un manager à poigne aurait insisté pour un meilleur taux de royalties, une meilleure distribution et promotion, du soutien. Alors que nous étions piétinés par une boite incompétente, avec toujours un pied dans les années cinquante. Ils ne connaissaient rien au psychédélisme, et avaient de plus gros chats à fouetter. Comme Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich. Bien que notre manager de l’époque Fairfield Parlour ait fait des erreurs, il nous avait au moins assuré un meilleur contrat avec le nouveau label, Vertigo. Le disque a été enregistré, et on a loué les bandes pour cinq ans. Après cette période, tous les droits revenaient au groupe. On profite donc d’un revenu correct, en licenciant Fairfield Parlour et White Faced Lady (album resté inédit). Pour répondre à votre question, oui nous touchons des royalties pour Kaleidoscope. Mais vu le taux de retour criminellement bas, qui se maintient depuis quarante-deux ans, ça nous fait de l’argent de poche. Amer moi ? Tu parles. J’ai travaillé avec Universal sur la compilation Dive Into Yesterday, mais là encore ils ont lésiné. Le livret était supposé être en couleur, ce qu’ils ont changé en monochrome, à la dernière minute. Pour économiser trois ronds. Les pauvres gens. Télécharger ? Pas mon truc. On touche des haricots là-dessus. À moins d’avoir des centaines de milliers de gens téléchargeant votre musique, vous ne gagnerez jamais un sou comme ça. Je préfère vendre mes disques sur mon site, Les fans savent que s’ils m’achètent un CD, le profit sera investi dans la musique. Pas dans lesgriffes d’un représentant de maisons disques, ou d’un actionnaire, sourd comme des pots.
Louis : Que pensez-vous des groupes actuels ? Des favoris ?
Peter : Je n’écoute pas de musique. Pour ne pas m’abîmer davantage les oreilles. Les mecs dans les groupes, lisez ceci : protéger vos oreilles, portez des filtres anti bruit, sauvez votre ouïe. Où vous finirez comme moi. Le mot anglais que j’utilise le plus est « pardon ».
Louis : Vous a-t-on déjà pris pour Roger Daltrey ?
Peter : Beaucoup de gens font l’erreur de m’appeler Roger. Mes parents avaient réservé dans un restaurant, et ils avaient bien mangé. Le serveur leur a demandé si le personnel pouvait les rencontrer. Ils ont accepté, en trouvant ça extrêmement bizarre, mais ont accepté. Les serveurs et les cuisiniers ont débarqué, bouché bée devant mes parents stupéfaits. Le chef a alors demandé si Roger pouvait leur rendre une visite. L’addition avait baissé, mais mes parents n’ont rien dit. Je crois qu’ils voulaient surtout manger à l’œil.
Louis Hauguel pour Fuzzine, avec la collaboration de Lou et traduction de Laurent. (2010)
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